Anson slightly lifted his chin, a look of understanding crossing his face. He didn't rush to respond. Kristen's thoughts were on the right track, but he needed a moment to organize his own.
Where was the key?
Mary Jane falls in love with Spider-Man and later with Peter Parker. Here, the script plays a trick. For the audience, it seems natural and seamless because they know Peter Parker is Spider-Man, so they complete the emotional transfer effortlessly.
But for actors, there's missing information. How does Mary Jane, while in love with Spider-Man, also fall for Peter Parker, especially when she's dating Harry Osborn at the time?
In the original film, this transition was never fully explained. The movie cleverly relied on the audience's knowledge of Peter's dual identity to gloss over this logical gap, silently stitching together Mary Jane's emotional journey.
Perhaps viewers didn't notice this inconsistency during the movie, but upon reflection, they might realize the lack of smoothness and clarity. As a result, Mary Jane comes off as fickle, seemingly falling for whoever comes along.
This undermines the depth, fullness, and charm of her character.
In the film industry, there's a concept known as the "refrigerator effect." It refers to situations where viewers don't notice any flaws while watching the movie because they're fully absorbed. But when they get home and open their fridge, they suddenly realize there were logical errors or plot holes. If the audience doesn't catch on until then, the film is considered successful.
After all, movies are created by humans and will inevitably have mistakes or gaps. The true magic of a film lies in the immersive experience. As long as the audience doesn't notice the flaws until after the viewing, it's not a problem.
In the acceptable scope of the "refrigerator effect," some imperfections can be forgiven.
For example, Mary Jane's emotional journey.
Would this affect the film's box office? No.
Would it limit the film's potential to become a classic? Yes.
Kristen's confusion stems from this. Her question isn't just about when Mary Jane fell for Peter Parker. More precisely, it's about what role Mary Jane played in Peter Parker's transformation into Spider-Man.
Sam Raimi had always tried to flesh out Mary Jane:
When Mary Jane confesses her love for Peter but is rejected, it's because Peter realizes the full weight of the phrase "with great power comes great responsibility." He understands that he must carry this burden alone, or else Mary Jane would face the same tragic fate as Uncle Ben. His rejection isn't because he doesn't love her but because he loves her too much.
This arc not only completes Peter Parker's character but also elevates Mary Jane to carry a weight in the story similar to Uncle Ben's.
However, script limitations and time constraints hindered Kristen's portrayal, and Mary Jane ended up as little more than a pretty face, reduced to a pawn in the rivalry between Harry Osborn and Peter Parker.
This is common in commercial films. But Sam's original intention was to make a coming-of-age story, and such a missed opportunity was undoubtedly a regret.
Now, regardless of the reasons, Kristen had recognized this issue. Did this mean they had the chance to elevate the film to another level?
With this in mind, Anson looked back at Kristen.
"So, what kind of girl do you think Mary Jane is?"
Kristen was surprised. Anson hadn't answered her question but instead opened up a new topic. She didn't rush to respond, pausing to think.
After a moment of reflection, she replied, "Glamorous on the outside, but lonely and isolated on the inside."
Kristen had captured the essence of Mary Jane with just one sentence.
She looked back at Anson, who nodded in agreement. "Mary Jane's family is a mess. It's not just loneliness—it's constant harm. She tries to escape, with only one thought in mind: to get out of that hell as quickly as possible."
"She lacks security, she's lonely, vulnerable, stubborn, and hides her deep insecurities."
Kristen interjected, "Insecurities?" She wasn't sure.
Anson's eyes were firm. "Yes. Insecurities. She doesn't believe she deserves better and doesn't trust that anyone would genuinely love her. So she clings to anyone who shows interest in her, like grasping onto a lifeline, even if she never really liked them."
"She's just seeking help."
Kristen fell into deep thought.
Anson continued.
"Even her feelings for Spider-Man are similar. Because he saved her multiple times, she developed a strange affection for him—like every girl with a Cinderella fantasy, hoping a prince will rescue her from the flames. But what she feels towards Spider-Man is more about gratitude and relief than love. That's why she kissed him."
And so, they created the iconic upside-down kiss that became legendary in cinema history.
Kristen was struck by Anson's bold and fresh perspective. "So, she doesn't actually like Harry Osborn or Spider-Man?"
Anson shrugged lightly. "Have you read *The Great Gatsby*? Mary Jane's inner world is a bit like Daisy's. Daisy never truly knew what she wanted, blindly chasing things and eventually being swallowed by her own emptiness."
Kristen paused, a smile tugging at her lips. "Are you comparing *Spider-Man* to *The Great Gatsby* now?"
Anson spread his hands. "It's not about comparing them; it's about how we understand words, characters, and life. That's the work of an actor."
Kristen froze for a moment.
Jack, sitting nearby, was equally stunned.
The café hummed with soft chatter. Occasionally, the clinking of porcelain could be heard, and outside, engines roared as cars passed by. But in that moment, the world of these three young actors was uniquely still.
They didn't exchange glances or start a new conversation. They just immersed themselves in their thoughts, yet creativity and inspiration flowed through their minds.
Then Anson's voice broke the gentle warmth of the air.
"Mary Jane never noticed Peter Parker, even though they were neighbors, because she was always running away. She was trying to escape her life, her family, her neighborhood, and naturally, Peter was part of that life she wanted to escape."
"Until one day, she realized she couldn't run anymore."
"Maybe she could fool others, but she could never fool herself. And that's when she began to realize that maybe Peter Parker was the exception."
"Because in front of Peter, she could be herself. She didn't need to hide. And because Peter could 'see' her—not just her appearance but her existence—he saw her fears, her struggles, her vulnerabilities, her dreams. And Peter was willing to truly listen to her voice. In those moments, she was real."
"More importantly, Peter represented her reality while also understanding her dreams. Peter never tried to hold her back or stop her from leaving."
"Maybe Mary Jane didn't even realize it at first, but with Peter, it started with just one word, then two, and slowly it became more and more. Being near Peter felt like being close to warmth—it was an instinct in the cold winter."
"And then, came the fluttering of her heart."
"For Mary Jane, this was the first time."
The world fell completely silent.
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