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In all seriousness.
Let's talk about Remnant and Earth.
Remnant had a single currency, the Lien, and its entire economy was still making use of the Gold Standard.
Quick economic lesson: Gold Standard is when the value of a coin is dictated by the gold reserves available to a nation. So that meant that, while Dust was the most mined material, it was still outclassed for 'worth' by Precious Metals (Gold, Silver and Diamonds the like).
As you all know, all races refer to the planet as Remnant. On Remnant there are five continents. However, only three of them are inhabited by mankind, and on these continents there exist only 4 known kingdoms: Atlas in the north continent, Mistral in the east continent, Vacuo and Vale in the middle continent. The other two regions are officially unexplored. Any attempts to immigrate over and establish a foothold has been halted by extremely High/Ancient Grimm concentrations. It is known that there are no obvious evidence of human civilizations due to extended investigations done by airships. To this day, 500 years after the most ancient records of history, only our four kingdoms still exist.
( Copy this from w3zel in reddit R/RWBY ( U wU) so yeah. I don't take credit for this info dump. Also be warn that this us a D Measuring contest. )
Comparing the two Worlds
Remnant
4 main kingdoms, or countries (give or take, only ones that matter)
Vale
Vacuo
Atlas
Mistral
A population of around 50-300 million
1 main military power, Atlas
Half a moon
The Atlesian military has 1 main fighting "vehicle" a robot The Knight-130. Other wise they also have Airships and small multi-purpose aircraft, 1 very large robot (I assume they have more), . They have held of grimm using the Soviet Tactic. You don't have enough bullets for our men. They have protected all of Remnant for years winning the war of attrition. Their equipment is good enough to kill the average Grimm.
Earth
5 super powers
USA
Russia
The EU (Britain, Germany, France, Etc)
China
India
A population of over 71/2 billion
a whole moon
Us people of Earth have lived through hundreds of wars, billions of people, and nukes. Oh many nukes. Besides the nukes the Military powers of these super powers easily reaches over millions of service men and women. We really don't have a liking for each other sometimes, but combined, would be a force to be reckoned with. So, lets talk firepower.
To Compare I'm only going to compare 3 countries, USA, Russia, and China. The big boys
USA
Population: ~330 million
1.3 million active service members, ~850,000 in reserve
>400 naval ships of any kind
~13,000 aircraft
>40,000 Ground combat vehicles
Defense Budget of $700,000,000,000
Labor force ~160 million
>36 billion barrels of oil in reserve
Russia
Population: ~140 million
1 million service members, ~ 2.5 million in reserve
>350 naval ships of any kind
~4000 aircraft
>80,000 Ground combat vehicles
Defense Budget of $44,000,000,000
Labor force ~76 million
>80 billion barrels of oil in reserve
China
Population: ~1.3 billion
2.1 million service members, ~500,000 in reserve
>700 naval ships of any kind
~3000 aircraft
>62,000 Ground combat vehicles
Defense Budget of $224,000,000,000
Labor force ~800 million
>25 billion barrels of oil in reserve
So these stats prove that Earth might not have dust, but we are packin' with resources. But grimm are infinite right? Well that's a huge issue. We could deal with it though. War time production and our available assets would allow us to push the Grimm to a point the size of Great Britain.
We have over a hundred thousand ground vehicles: MBTs, SPGs, Self-Propelled-Artillery, SPAAs, and Light Armored Vehicles. But the Grimm can be any size shape and form, and they're infinite! Yes but even a Grimm that resembles a ghost got kill by Harriet with a punch. Imagine what 100 tanks would do. Yes limited ammo would be a problem but a steady supply chain and front defense would make any armored regiment almost unstoppable, unless Grimm can develop a way to shoot a APFSDS round. Don't let em get even close to the tanks, killing from afar would be essential. The Light ground vehicles, like the BMPs and Bradleys would back up the tanks from smaller units. And SPAAs would get overwhelmed but they would be backed up by the air force.
The air would be a massacre, It was brought to my knowledge that aerial Grimm could travel over 300 mph, The F22 is Mach 2, over 1500 mph. That's hella fast, WAY faster than any Grimm and the Argus Limited. We would have aerial control easily.
In the Sea is a more difficult answer, ships a kinda slow. A Grimm big enough could just, flip it over. The whole plan of navy would be strength in numbers. Combining all our eggs in one basket and protect each other, the same for the Army too. Tanks are Fast, but I want to bet Grimm could outrun and flip a M1 Abrams over quite easily. So as I said, strength in numbers. I summon u/JMHSrowing because I don't know a lot about warships.
Grimm's whole gimmick is when people panic they show up and fuckin' kill everyone. So keeping troops moral high and ready is crucial to the containment. Obviously we can't win against an infinite enemy, but we could contain. Assuming the Earth's Grimm would be like Remnant's and all come from one source. We should over do it, wasting resources on killing Grimm is the number 1 problem, we have to have discipline. We would probably develop a way to kill many Grimm easily without sending the planet into nuclear apocalypse.
Do I think we could do it. Probably we got the manpower and technology to win against Grimm. If I overlooked an aspect lemme know. But from what I've researched and seen from the show. If Ruby, a 17 year old with a 50 cal and a over-sized garden utensil can kill a Bloodthirsty animal 2 times her size, a marine could too.
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SumFagola
Casual Dictionary/IDHTTEWIDHTTE
166d
How long did this take?
And ye we would stomp
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W3zel
166d
Took me a while to research all this stuff, but being on pc helps like a shit ton
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lordwithoutmyth
164d
except for the fact that most soldier on remnant would both be superhumanly fast AND bulletproof. we would get slaughtered in every engagement cause only our side would suffer casualties. a huntsman would probably be able to deal with armored vehicles with ease let alone massacre entire platoons by themselves.
when it comes to the Grimm, they adapt and energy projection seems to manifest commonly enough that they could probably destroy our war machines easily. in fact a nuclear missile would probably be to the grimms' advantage. then they would evolve to emit radioactivity, and thus you have to deal with that.
In fact a desperate remnant would possibly do that themselves. Their aura protects them from heat and cold alike, so its likelay that it can protect from radiation too.
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ac201200
166d
Yea humans would fuck them up
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Qyriad
166d
Honestly I'm not so sure about it. The initial arrival of Grimm into the modern world would cause mass panic and mayhem, and it would take some time for the military to properly mobilize and regain control. Depending on how the Grimm arrived, entire towns and small cities could easily be destroyed overnight, and third-world countries would surely be wiped out. Somany people would die before the various militaries finally got control over the situation, and that would only be in countries with strong militaries. I do think humanity would regain control, yes, but it would take a serious hit to population she infrastructure all over the world, and less densely populated areas may basically cease to exist.
Again, I think eventually humanity would regain control, and do okay, but the population would suffer greatly, tons of major infrastructure would be made non-existent, and the viable living space for humanity would plummet. After that, humanity would survive just fine, but unless the percentage of people signing up for the militaries skyrocketed (which it might) humanity might have trouble retaking land.
Edit: typo
Edit 2: yes a marine could take a Grimm, but Ruby could absolutely take a marine, no doubt about it. Every huntsman and huntresses is a supersoldier, Captain America level minimum. Aura is a huge advantage, and it'll take some time for even high power weapons to break it. Huntsmen and huntresses are people that dedicate every part of their life to fighting, going above and beyond with it. Even in the world of Remnant, there after guards and (military?) and other super competent fighters, but they don't hold a candle to huntsman-level fighters. And that's not even thinking about Semblances.
Ruby alone could surely take several Marines at least.
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Mejiro84
166d
Hunters seem very variable. Remember the two on the train? Some are great, others really aren't. Also, anyone with largely melee attacks has the disadvantage of needing to get in close - when there's a lot of people shooting at you, that's not great, once aura is gone, you're only squishy meat. One-one-one, yeah, the person with superhuman powers is better, but there's likely a hell of a lot more soldiers than hunters, and they are trained to work together. 'Dedicate every part of their life to fighting' also seems a stretch - Tai quit to become a teacher, Qrow's an alcoholic, Jaune did no training at all prior to joining. Some might be super-dedicated, but some do have families and stuff, or will take easy jobs and not stretch themselves.
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lordwithoutmyth
164d
i think marines could only take very young grimm. anything old enough to have learned to adapt to gunfire would butcher them with absolute ease. Grimm adapt in both itnelelct and physiology.
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IcePlastic
166d
We would need very sustainable ammunition. Other than that, we would be fine if we could successfully setup and maintain barriers. Subterranean grim would be the biggest problem.
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MacGregor_Rose
Brother to Ruby and Rubie Rose. Yeah thats not confusing
165d
America could kick their ass
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FadedNeonzZz
166d
Remnant is full of superhumans that have access to their own soul as a passive shield and have done more at age 15 than most of us have. I think we could fight off "normal" Grimm like Ursa, Beowolves, and the small fry. But wyverns? Leviathans? Flying monkeys? Yeah no. Our Air Force and Navy are strong but they aren't equipped to take on giant monsters.
Plus Remnant has maidens, and unless our world leaders are hiding people with special powers, we don't. Maidens like Cinder or Raven could wipe out an entire city before reinforcements arrive.
We'd put up a good fight, but it's hard to win when 1 huntsman can be worth up to 5-10 standard soldiers.
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W3zel
166d
Well yeah, do realized I was just talkin' Grimm, Cinder or Raven would decimate us in hours, but I think their powers are finite. The giant Grimm in my eyes is like Godzilla, kill it like bacteria kills a host. From the inside slowly. We got weapons that are definitely capable to penetrate armor thicker than 600mm, so Grimm hide can't all be that different. Do realize Earth has maybe 10x the man power of Remnant, and our special ops, the Marines, SEALs, the Russian Spetsnaz would adjust from killing humans, to becoming huntsman of our own.
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FadedNeonzZz
166d
I'm sorry I just read the title and made an assumption, that's my fault. I thought you were talking about a war between our world and Remnant.
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lordwithoutmyth
164d
except that said giant monster would likely be rapidly adapting to every engagement and would develop hide that can in fact withstand armor piercing rounds. then you would have to deal with grimm that have adapted to human strategy too.
I am pretty sure that most remnant technology surpasses out weaponry. And when you got grimm that can tank sniper bulelts not only going as fast as our most advanced model, but also explode on contact? We would have to catch up majorly.
Grimm lack actual self preservation so its not implausible that a grimm would simply ensure its in the path of a drone or plane and simply let the collision do the work, especially if directed to do so by smarter grimm.
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Mejiro84
166d
'Full of' is probably an exaggeration - hunters seem pretty rare, and some are kinda pants (the two on the train, for example, were pros, but awful. Yang a group can basically run away from, especially in dense terrain. Blake can kill someone faster with a knife than a normal person, but otherwise has some guns, with all the offensive power of... some guns). Also, aura isn't instant or automatic, so sustained combat will wear them down fast. Given that the hunter population of an entire kingdom (i.e. a large % of the world population) had been largely eliminated by Hazel and Tyrian, then being worth 5-10 soldiers isn't that helpful, because there's a whole helluva a lot of soldiers, but not that many hunters, and some are just don't have useful skills to being to bear (virtually all Remnant combat seems to occur within, what 100 meters or so? Rain some mortars down, then retreat, repeat, and that'll wear aura down fast. Ambush them when sleeping, use smoke bombs, tear gas, chemical weapons).
Maidens we have no idea of their sustained offensive output or defensive abilities - they're still human, so have certain vulnerabilities (they need to see and breath, so teargas will have an effect, for example, as would flashbangs). They don't run out of magical energy, but that's about it. They may well get tired, so can get confused and disorientated and make mistakes. They don't seem to have reactions any greater than anyone else, so can be confused, fooled, and misled, or just overwhelmed or surprised.
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no to mention Earth's Orbital satellites, Various Energy, Industry and many more is far more advanced.
How is this related?
Well duh. Mc is clearly going to copy all the technology etc.
Also to prove that our so Called Mundane Earth is such a Badass. ( Note : These are old tech. )
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